Lula and Trump Discuss Tariffs and Future Meetings in "Friendly" Call
Brazilian President Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva and U.S. President Donald Trump spoke by phone on Monday, with both sides describing the conversation as positive. Lula requested the removal of punitive trade tariffs imposed by the U.S., signaling a potential thaw in relations strained by political differences and trade disputes.
Key Points of the Call
- The call lasted for 30 minutes and was described as having a "friendly tone."
- Lula specifically requested the removal of tariffs on Brazilian products and sanctions against Brazilian officials.
- Trump hailed the discussion as a "very good telephone call" and indicated further discussions and in-person meetings would occur in the near future.
- Both leaders exchanged personal phone numbers to establish a direct line of communication.
Background and Context
Relations between Washington and Brasília have been tense due to Trump's displeasure with the trial and conviction of former Brazilian President Jair Bolsonaro, a political ally. Trump imposed a 50% tariff on Brazilian products, citing what he called a "witch hunt" against Bolsonaro.
Brazil's Vice President Geraldo Alckmin expressed optimism about improving relations, noting that the call exceeded expectations. The conversation followed a brief encounter at the UN General Assembly, which was described as the result of an intensive diplomatic effort. Lula had previously criticized attacks on Brazil's judiciary at the UN.
Trade and Economic Implications
The tariffs imposed by the U.S. primarily target major Brazilian exports such as beef, coffee, and sugar. Recent trade data indicates a decrease in Brazilian exports to the U.S., highlighting the economic impact of the tariffs.
However, Brazil has been diversifying its exports to other markets, particularly in Asia. A Brazilian government source indicated the private sector played a role in the rapprochement, referencing meetings between Trump and Brazilian beef tycoon Joesley Batista.
| Topic | Details |
|---|---|
| Tariffs | Lula requested the removal of the 50% tariff on Brazilian goods. |
| Future Meetings | Both leaders expressed interest in meeting in person, possibly at the ASEAN Summit in Malaysia or in Brazil. |
| Economic Impact | Brazilian exports to the U.S. have decreased, but Brazil is diversifying its markets. |
Potential Future Engagements
Lula invited Trump to the COP-30 climate conference in Belém, Brazil, and expressed his willingness to travel to the United States. He had previously lamented the lack of communication channels with Washington. Observers are cautiously optimistic that these conversations could lead to improved relations between the two countries.
